Interview with Tynan, Part II
You might remember Tynan from Part I of the BipolarNation interview (link currently unavailable while I update the site), but in case you need a reminder, he’s the owner of BetterThanYourBoyfriend.com, was featured in the New York Times bestseller The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pick-Up Artists, and is working on a rap career. Here’s Part II:
BPN: Could you take me through the process you went through in buying your house?
Tynan: I bought the house for two reasons - first it was something to do. Second, I wanted to do projects. I have awful credit because I’ve gotten into disputes with companies, refused to pay, and had it put on my report. After the first one it became a lot easier not to be bullied. I see the benefit of a credit scoring system, and think it works overwhelmingly well for the most part, but the flip side is that it’s also used to bully people. I refuse to put up with that.
Anyway, I told my parents I wanted to buy a house and they were extremely supportive. They actually got a loan using their (paid off) home as equity. That’s one of those things that really makes you appreciate the trust and respect your parents have for you.
I saw a lot of houses, but as soon as I saw the one I ended up buying, I knew it was it. What did it was the limestone floor in the bathroom. I thought it was really unique. I lived in the house for about five years, and now I’m selling it. A few of the projects I did include wiring all the lights to be centrally controlled, mapping out the full lawn for the robomower, converting a bedroom into a movie theater with a 120″ screen and two rows of stadium seating, and putting a swimming pool in the living room temporarily.
If anyone wants a cool house in Austin, talk to me.
BPN: You’re one of the biggest proponents of polyphasic sleep. How hard is it to change to polyphasic sleep - for example, how long might it take to completely shift over?
Tynan: It is probably the most difficult thing in the world to do. It’s at least the most difficult thing I’ve attempted. The first 5-7 days are pure hell. Each nap makes you more tired, yet you keep counting down the minutes until you can take another one. By day 3 desperation has set in, and all you can think about is sleep and a million reasons why you should do it.
BPN: What is life like when you’re on a polyphasic schedule?
Tynan: It’s great, but of course has drawbacks as well. I felt like a better person than everyone else - like I was cheating the system. I’d see people go to sleep and wake up and I would have been getting stuff done the whole time. Each nap feels as though it’s 4-5 hours long, which sometimes causes panic while waking up. Once you’re on it, you have dreams every single time and feel fantastic after every nap. The downside is that you end up having to schedule around it, especially if you don’t live downtown. It’s also strange to realize that you can’t participate in any activity that lasts longer than 3:45.
BPN: With polyphasic sleep, you get lots of free time, and you seem like a guy who knows how to wisely spend that time. If you had absolutely nothing on your plate right now, what would you do with your time?
Tynan: I would do what I already do - work on projects and skate on my skateboard. I have a million projects in mind at all times that I want to work on. For example, some that I haven’t started yet are building a web site to sell electric skateboards, starting a 100% healthy and delicious restaurant, and writing my book. I’d like to spend more time writing in my blog, too.
BPN: It seems like, whatever you try, you’re good at. You wrote a post on your blog about climbing to the top of social ladders. How do you go about “shaking things up” when you’re in a new setting or community and actually coming out the better and stronger for it?
Tynan: I tend to thrive in chaotic situations because I’m good at making very fast and fairly good decisions. I think a lot of people make better decisions than me with a lot of time, but when there is a lot of stress, pressure, or chaos, I tend to come out on top. Most people are the opposite, so if you can cause any sort of disorganization or chaos, you can rebuild things to include you.
BPN: When you posted the “UT Tunnels” story on your blog, did you expect any of the controversy?
Tynan: Not at all. I had a few posts in the back of my head that I knew would be big, and were, but that wasn’t one of them. Some guy sent me an e-mail asking about it so I wrote out the article. The reponse was pretty incredible. I did a guest presentation at a class at UT (on polyphasic sleep) shortly after that episode, and everyone in the room had heard of it and most had seen the site.
BPN: You’re one of the stars of the Seduction Community, and you went from being a self-described ‘peon’ to hosting a PUA (Pickup Artist) Summit in Austin, to living in Hollywood with the best in the world. How on earth do you climb these social ladders so quickly?
Tynan: A lot of it isn’t intentional, but I can still describe it because others notice it and articulate it. I’m pretty charismatic, and people tend to like me quickly. I have good common sense and try hard not to be a freeloader. Most guys in the pickup community were trying to get free advice or instruction out of the gurus. I tried to become their friends. I make people feel like they’re important, but not that I need them. Having that distinction makes people feel good about themselves, but not like I’m trying to get something from them.
BPN: Before the Community, where did you stand with women?
Tynan: I definitely had some natural charisma and wit, but was way too needy and jealous. If a girl liked me I could do enough not to screw it up (usually), but I could never pick a girl and then get her.
BPN: What was the hardest part about going out and learning how to attract women?
Tynan: Finding the dedication. Doing the exercises is easy. Learning the material is easy. Finding the girls is easy. What produces results, however, is dedication. It’s hard to maintain discipline when you’re going out every night with 0 chance of meeting a girl and 100% chance of getting embarrassed and rejected. I definitely put in my time there. I never made it to the level that Mystery, Tyler Durden, and Style are at, though. They had much more dedication than I did. Part of it was that I really don’t care about sex, so I didn’t have that drive motivating me. For me it was more of proving to myself that I COULD do it, not that I WOULD do it. Once I got a girl or two who I would have considered way out of my league, I knew that I “had it”.
BPN: Aside from living in Project Hollywood, could you explain the process of becoming a pickup artist that you went through? Was there a long “rejection” period, or was that curve flattened by hanging out with the best in the world?
Tynan: It was a slow but steady learning curve until Project Hollywood. After that I got much better very quickly. The reason is that I subconsciously began to understand their lifestyle and mannerisms, rather than just reading about it. Also, going out was mandatory at Project Hollywood. Everyone did it, so if I didn’t I would be home alone and bored.
BPN: What did you learn from your roommates? Any non-”Game” experiences to
share?
Tynan: I learned a TON from them, game and otherwise. Here are some highlights:
From Mystery I learned that it’s ok, or even better, to exaggerate your personality. He says to have a strong identity, and I think that’s important. It’s still something I’m struggling with (which is probably why I haven’t answered your first question yet). Because of him I try to be larger than life and include others in the excitement.
From Tyler I learned that any skill is attainable. He is so intense and dedicated that he always becomes the best at what he does. I admire that. I literally think “what would Tyler do?” when I catch myself not putting 100% into things.
From Style I learned how to be interested in people. He has this way of making everyone he talks to feel very important and valuable. It’s uncanny. It’s always a pleasure talking with him. I don’t have it like he does, but I always have it in mind.
From Playboy I learned to be proud of my weird hobbies. He had weird hobbies and personality quirks and he acted like they were the coolest things in the world.
From Papa I learned how valuable it is to hustle. He worked incredibly hard and made impossible things happen. The fact that 5 20-30 year olds lived in Dean Martin’s mansion on Sunset Boulevard is totally insane.
We lived in a better place than 99% of people will ever live in their lives. It only happened because he refused to give up or listen to people who said that it was a dumb idea.
BPN: To climb to the top of the Community, you took a huge risk and moved to California to live with three pickup artists for 3,000 dollars a month, while still owning a house in Austin. Is risk like this, a trademark of your life so far, a necessity to becoming a success?
Tynan: Of course. I didn’t even see it as a risk, though. Knowledge, skills, and ultimately excellence, are built on nothing but experience. I always want to have the broadest and most intense palette of experiences in my life. The greatest things in my life have come by accident through unrelated experiences, so I just want to get into the action whenever possible.
Smart people don’t go homeless and live on the streets. It NEVER happens. From that I can derive a risk free attitude which tells me that I’ll always be in good shape no matter what.
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